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Post Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:45 am 
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Fred made slightly over 200 short cylinders.. 256 is what I would bet, but my memory is faulty.. The patent went up for sale after his passing.. I had a chance at it, but never figured I could make a profit on it..and like I mentioned, many of the top PPC shooters, knew the concept had little benefit. If fact of the many revolvers tested over the years, standard cylinders shot better groups..But in all fairness, the same effort in regard to precision machining, brass gas rings, crown and chamber advances were not applied to the shorty.. I don't think anyone ever bought the patent...
I bought a great deal of his S&W parts inventory, numerous barrels, a couple of guns, and his surface grinder..His mill went to a very well known shotgun smith. I can't recall the lathe destination..
I no longer have the surface grinder.. Up graded to a much bigger unit.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:34 am 
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Thanks for sharing Jerry, I confirmed mine is #236

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:48 am 
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So Jerry do you think the one I have is a Schmidt build?

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:21 am 
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Staysafebob wrote:
So Jerry do you think the one I have is a Schmidt build?

Anything's possible.
I was pretty close to the mix. I knew Lou Seigel, like a brother.. He never mentioned a 38 shorty with moon clips, and I am pretty sure that would have been an odd set up at the time. No optics that I am aware of either..Fred put a logo on both sides of the barrels.. But, it's possible some one rebarreled it.. Almost 30 years since he died..
Lou has Serial # 1, and an assortment of others.. PPC was big in those days.. Many officers were suppported by their agencies.. I can remember 9 relays at DesMoines..so Fred's guns sold well during that period.. Ron Power, Lou Ciamillo, Alan Tanaka, and Bill Davis were the heavy hitter gunsmiths at that time..

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