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Chuck, please expound on that. Too far forward?

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Here's a drawing that may help....



From the VIS to the black line would represent the .45 dimension..
Red would represent the .40/10mm dimension..
Blue, .38/9mm........

Not to scale or set in concrete, but what works for me..

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Logman...thanks for the info on this.

DK and Salty do a search for cleco wedgelock....they have them on Ebay and on the web....good luck.

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I'll have to look it up again, but from memory, the 9mm uses a steeper angle. IIRC, it's something like 20 degrees as opposed to the 31.5 degrees for the .45acp.

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There are no prints for the 9mm that are ordinance spec or published that I have seen in almost 30 years of searching.
All Colts, including the early .38 Supers, were at the approximately 31.5 Degree angle.
I think you will find the different angles were derived to get better feeding in certain applications and to get correct feedramp depth with certain frames.

I know Jerry Keefer and Bob Marvel have used angles other than that for corrective measures and very specific applications. I'm sure there are others as well.

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kbar,

No success using Google with search target of 'kwik-lock' and 'cleco'. I did find a 'cleco type ' spring loaded clamp from Spring Star that looks like the image that LOG posted. The prodect seems to cost, with no freight expense added, 4-8 $ ea. and looks to be Harbor Freight quality. Dunno.

It wasn't a quality solution using quality parts, but I used a bunch of small spring clip binders from Office Depot.

Sorry for the delay in responding. My bad.

As a side comment, LOG's measuring tool seems to agree with the results obtained using niemi's hand tool.

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Try here:
http://mrotools.com/cleco-fasteners.asp ... hwodzX6XLw

Lots of clecos om eBay also.

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