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Post Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:00 pm 
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This is really fun to watch unfold, Chuck. Not just the technical aspects, but perhaps especially the personal side; you have pushed hard to achieve this, and all the while maintained your down-to-earth good naturedness. Your coming successes are well deserved.


I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:16 pm 
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I think you are headed in the right direction, the combination of aluminum and steel is the way to go for weight reduction and heat sink.

But I do hope it does well enough to give you the money and equipment to work on some of the exotics you mentioned like tantalum and other nonferrous bore materials for low erosion and long life.


Trivia: My 1960s college roommate's Dad was a DuPont engineer in the early days of the Detaclad process. Interesting to see it has moved so far and into a field I am interested in, too.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:48 am 
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Jim, I remember you mentioning that before. IF I remember correctly, Deta clad was a rolling process under high pressure. Accomplished nearly the same thing, but was limited to size. Correct me if I am wrong.
As for the Tantalum, TA5W and TA10W exist in the lab and have been done in larger guntubes. We will be moving forward with further developments once the dust settles with our current phase of business. I suspect its now a situation of selling all we can produce. The biggest test to date is about to conclude and I am very optimistic. If the next few phases of developement are HALF as succesful as this, I am going to be very.....Happy. We are at least 6-8 months from having full scale production equipment on the floor. Seems all barrelmaking equipment is backordered for some reason. Time for me to suffer the wait time customers have in the past.......lol

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:50 am 
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Jon, D.I.Y. , Thanks for that. I kinda like to think of this as the online version of a Discovery show......They are missing out BIG time....lmao.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:23 am 
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DetaClad was a DuPont explosive cladding process. "Deta" - detonation, get it?
It was limited, as you say, to flat plate.
They did some three layer for ersatz quarters but it was not competitive with rolling mill product and DuPont did not pursue it after the publicity was wrung out.

I looked at explosive clad material for chemical process vessels, but stainless was good enough and cheaper.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:48 am 
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I looked that process up and got re educated. Thanks for that. We have worked on some smaller plate stuff to date with some pretty exotic stuff, but commercialization of this process has taken precedence. Cost effective utilization of the process has gone well so far. Barrels are the first of several products in the pipeline...


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Post Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:21 pm 
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We are now producing our first batch of pre production barrels. This first batch of 50 will be 416r SS and Aluminum. Caliber on these will be .30 and above, and custom twist rates can be accommodated, as these are individually cut rifled. We have run a substantial supply of ammo dry, and are getting great results. Accuracy is measurably better than factory barrels, but we have yet to get bench rest testing completed with a custom barrel.
Wade, of Bell & Carlson Stocks, is gonna wring one out for the nth degree of accuracy.
The AR pictured is shooting very well and when we reach the 500 rnd mark, we'll check the gasport. So far, zero erosion, as the steel at the gasport is almost the same as a stock barrel. I think the heat shedding is allowing less erosion at the gasport actually.
An M110 type rifle is being built as I write this(2 actually) for testing as well.
This has been a lot of fun so far with zero issues cropping up so far.

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Post Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:52 pm 
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Chuck, very impressive so far! I'm psyched your are doing AR-15 barrels too... that is a huge market for you! There are some exotic metals being used in this realm with spectacular results. Check out American Built Arm's (www.abarms.com) Nickel Boron coated parts. Couple that with an Osprey Piston assembly and Timney trigger, you are "loaded for bear"!

Are you considering doing 1911 barrels down the pike? If so, we need to chat !

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Post Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 2:11 pm 
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Bluedog,

IF all goes well in the coming weeks, we will definately be doing 1911 barrels. Nothing exotic, just high quality. IF that all pans out (BIG IF) you will see complete 1911's, BHP's, AR's, and a Bolt rifle, ALL coming out of this neck of the woods. and of course, all the small parts as well.

How's that for an evasive answer? lol. Lotsa big if's.....

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Post Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 7:33 pm 
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Like I said before..... Cool stuff Chuck......very cool...

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